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		<title>Retiring? How To Keep Getting Income From Your Business</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Joe, a reader of this column, founded a family business, Success, Inc., that he headed for 24 years. His son, Bill, has been running the business for about six years. [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe, a reader of this column, founded a family business, Success, Inc., that he headed for 24 years. His son, Bill, has been running the business for about six years.</p>
<p>He&#8217;s doing a good job too. Joe, age 64, has cut back his work time to three to four hours a day for nine months of the year. The other three months are spent in a warm climate (mostly Florida) or traveling.</p>
<p>As Success grew over the years, Joe took only enough salary to maintain his family&#8217;s lifestyle. Simple put, <a title="how to invest your cash profits" href="http://www.estatetaxsecrets.com/successful-business-owner%E2%80%99s-dilemma-how-to-invest-your-cash-profits/">profits</a> were not taken out of Success, but reinvested. The business is still profitable, and it&#8217;s Joe&#8217;s only source of income. Success is a C corporation (tax paying).</p>
<p>In the past, Joe had taken a rather modest salary during the year, but he took a big bonus (when profits were available) to fund large family cash requirements (college, vacations, condo, etc.). His professionals had advised him to continue this compensation practice — the same salary and bonus arrangement — even though Joe was putting in about one-third of the time of prior years. Joe called me to get a second opinion.</p>
<p>The <a title="Intenal Revenue Service, IRS" href="http://irs.gov" target="_blank">IRS</a> would probably attack Joe&#8217;s current compensation arrangement on two fronts: First, the bonus would be regarded as a dividend, because it&#8217;s not taken until after the end of the year when the amount of the profit could be determined; and second, the salary would be regarded as unreasonable (too high) compensation.</p>
<p>Would the IRS win? On the first attack, Joe and the business wouldn&#8217;t stand a chance. The IRS would win hands down with the result being a nondeductible dividend for Success, and a taxable dividend for Joe. Second, the IRS could probably knock out about half of Joe&#8217;s current salary as being too high for services actually rendered. Unfortunately the (unreasonable) salary issue is tough to pin down (when challenged by the IRS) with any certainty.</p>
<p>What should Joe do? He needs the current income to live. The answer is to kill the C corporation and elect S corporation status. This would automatically remove the unreasonable compensation problem. What about the bonus? As an S corporation, Joe could take a <a title="yes its ok to beat up the IRS, legally of course" href="http://www.estatetaxsecrets.com/yes-it%E2%80%99s-ok-to-beat-up-the-irs-%E2%80%94-legally-of-course/">tax-free</a> dividend from Success (up to the amount of S corporation profits). This means that Success&#8217; profits would only be taxed once when taken as an S corporation dividend, instead of twice, when taken from a C corporation as a dividend. A big tax saving! Better yet, the same trick will continue to work when Joe completely retires (take those delightful tax-free dividends).</p>
<p>One more thing: S corporation dividends (the economic equivalent of a bonus to Joe) are not subject to Social Security tax or other payroll taxes &#8230; another big tax saving. And here&#8217;s an extra bonus: Joe can collect Social Security benefits even if he continues to work for Success.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re not tuned into the many advantages of electing S corporation status, you owe it to yourself to get the true tax facts. So, to be or not to be an S corporation? That is the question.</p>
<p>In practice, many factors can impact your decision. Still have doubts? Call Irv (417-9732) and I&#8217;ll walk you through to the right C or S decision.</p>
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